{"id":4346,"date":"2023-01-20T05:00:00","date_gmt":"2023-01-20T10:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/localhost:10003\/the-lean-post\/articles\/how-to-go-to-the-gemba-go-see-ask-why-show-respect\/"},"modified":"2023-10-16T14:00:06","modified_gmt":"2023-10-16T18:00:06","slug":"how-to-go-to-the-gemba-go-see-ask-why-show-respect","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lean.org\/the-lean-post\/articles\/how-to-go-to-the-gemba-go-see-ask-why-show-respect\/","title":{"rendered":"How to Go to the Gemba: Go See, Ask Why, Show Respect"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Everyone who has caught the lean bug shares at least one symptom: We love to observe work. We love to go to the gemba and watch the value-creating work, the real work of the business. But when leaders &#8220;go to the gemba,&#8221; they go for a reason: To help discover how to improve the work processes. Still, I&#8217;m often asked: \u201cWhat do you look for\u2026?\u201d So here are some guidelines I use when doing a gemba walk as an outside advisor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Go See, Ask Why, Show Respect<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>The words of Toyota Chairman Fujio Cho, &#8220;Go see, ask why, show respect,&#8221; are now famous as basic lean principles. I first heard Mr. Cho speak those words when I was deputy general manager during the early 1990s start-up of the Toyota Supplier Support Center in the U.S. Each week began with a meeting with Mr. Cho, who was my advisor, to discuss activities, progress, problems, and plans.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Go see, ask why, show respect is the way we turn the philosophy of scientific empiricism into actual behavior. We go observe what is really happening (at the gemba where the work takes place) while showing respect to the people involved, especially those who do the real value-creating work of the business. So now let&#8217;s do a job breakdown.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Go See<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>It starts with &#8220;go see,&#8221; so <em>how<\/em> do you go see? What do you look for?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We want to understand every gemba from the standpoints of&nbsp;<em>Purpose<\/em>,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.lean.org\/lexicon-terms\/process\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>Process<\/em><\/a><em>,&nbsp;<\/em>and&nbsp;<em>People<\/em>. Asked most simply and directly: Is management working to align people and processes to achieve a purpose? Are processes designed to enable people to work toward achieving organizational purpose? Here are some questions to dig deeper into this:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol>\n<li>What is the purpose of this gemba and the broader organization? Are they aligned? Can you&nbsp;<em>see<\/em>&nbsp;that alignment in the process and the people?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Are processes designed consistently to achieve the purpose?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Are people engaged in working to achieve the purpose, and are they supported in this work by the processes?<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>Although purpose ostensibly comes first, I usually focus on process when walking a gemba. Still, I often begin by asking just a few simple, direct questions about purpose. What is the organization or individual trying to accomplish \u2014 objectives and problems \u2014 in general and\/or today? After this, we begin our walk, observing and asking questions that focus on the process. Later, I always circle back to ask more in-depth questions about purpose, objectives, and problems.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Observing the process and people dimensions means seeking to understand the gemba (whether the specific work site you\u2019re visiting or the broader organization) as a socio-technical system. I like to try to understand the technical side first, though I observe both dimensions in parallel. If I can understand what this gemba is trying to accomplish technically, then I can easily conceive the best questions to ask to help them better understand where their real problems are and what they need to do next.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Based on the current situation of your gemba, I can begin to consider exactly what this gemba and these people need to learn. Then, I can think of how I can help them learn it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Ask Why<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>Having gone to see, now standing at the gemba, how do we go about understanding or analyzing the technical or process side of understanding the gemba-as-system? First, a thought question for you:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>What did you look for last time you went to the gemba? What do you look for whenever you go to the gemba?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Here are four ways people view work through very different &#8220;lean lenses&#8221;:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol>\n<li>Solution view\n<ol>\n<li>Look for opportunities to use lean tools\n<ul>\n<li>You must be careful here. Using a&nbsp;tool for the tool&#8217;s sake is one of the most common reasons for failure of lean initiatives large or small, and, once the pattern has been set, is most difficult to overcome.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Remember that lean thinking is about never jumping to conclusions or solutions, so the solution view isn&#8217;t really a lean view at all. Still, it is a very common among well-intentioned and even highly experienced practitioners.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Waste view\n<ol>\n<li>Look for waste\n<ul>\n<li>The seven (or eight) types<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Especially overproduction<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Other types<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Problem view\n<ol>\n<li>Start with the worksite objectives\n<ul>\n<li>Confirm: &#8220;What are you trying to achieve?<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Ask: &#8220;Why can&#8217;t you?&#8221;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Focus on system, quality, delivery, cost, morale\n<ul>\n<li>Problems: the presenting symptom or problem in performance<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Causes: points of cause in the work<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Kaizen view &#8211; seek patterns, forms, tools, routines, &#8220;kata&#8221;\n<ol>\n<li>Apply at the system level \u2014 &#8220;system kaizen&#8221;\n<ul>\n<li>Value-stream mapping&nbsp;plus material and information flow for system design<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Apply at the point level \u2014 &#8220;point kaizen&#8221;\n<ul>\n<li>Standardized work and daily kaizen<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>The kaizen and problem views are solidly founded on the plan-do-check-act&nbsp;(<a href=\"https:\/\/www.lean.org\/lexicon-terms\/pdca\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">PDCA<\/a>) process. The problem view is flexible and requires no specific lean knowledge, but it can take a long time to see results, and the path may be very uncertain. As the name implies, it is enabled by a robust problem-solving process that can take many specific forms. Toyota\u2019s eight-step (Toyota Business Process&nbsp;\u2013 TBP) process is a very good one. Seek it out and give it a try.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Like the problem view, the kaizen view embodies PDCA, but it also looks to establish specific (whether new or well-understood) patterns of behaviors. These patterns \u2014&nbsp;kata&nbsp;\u2014 lead to learning, continuous improvement, and innovation of new patterns. The concept is to \u201center through form\u201d \u2014 to master the behavior patterns and make them habitual to learn and change your thinking. Take a look at Mike Rother\u2019s book,&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.lean.org\/bookstore\/ProductDetails.cfm?SelectedProductId=324\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>Toyota Kata<\/em><\/a><em>&nbsp;<\/em>(2009).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>The patterns, routines, and tools of the Toyota Production System are designed to be structures for improvement and learning.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>When observing with a kaizen view, a good approach is to start your gemba walk as close as possible to the customer and work your way back, considering \u201cwhat would flow look like?\u201d Think about the system as well as the individual processes. The patterns, routines, and tools of the&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.lean.org\/lexicon-terms\/toyota-production-system\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Toyota Production System<\/a>&nbsp;are designed to be structures for improvement and learning. They help us see clearly and understand and also help us teach and mentor. So, they are just the things (solutions and means of deriving solutions) we teach, the vehicles through which we can ask questions to teach and mentor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Unfortunately, the kaizen view is sorely missing in most gemba walks I observe. And yet I am pleased that more Lean Thinkers are moving beyond the \u201csolutions lens\u201d (again, which is not lean thinking at all), past the simple waste lens (yes, we don\u2019t want waste, but we need to seek understanding of&nbsp;<em>why<\/em>&nbsp;the waste is there and&nbsp;<em>what<\/em>&nbsp;we can do about the&nbsp;<em>causes<\/em>&nbsp;of the waste), and many are working firmly within a problem-solving framework. This shift represents significant progress for the lean community.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Asking Questions at the Gemba<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>Although it is the second element of \u201cgo see, ask why, show respect,\u201d \u201cwhy?\u201d is not the first question we want to ask at the gemba. First, ask&nbsp;<em>what<\/em>, then&nbsp;<em>why<\/em>, then&nbsp;<em>what if<\/em>,&nbsp;and finally,&nbsp;<em>why not<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The purpose and process of asking why after you have observed the gemba: Your car has a GPS; you need a GTS \u2014 a \u201cgrasp the situation\u201d \u2014 process. We must train our lean eyes to see and minds to ask&nbsp;<em>what<\/em>&nbsp;first. Asking why \u2014 to diagnose \u2014 comes later. As David Verble says, \u201cAsk no \u2018why?\u2019 before its time.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Show Respect<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>When going to see, lean thinking mandates (yes, mandates) that we show respect to all the people, especially those who do the value-creating work of the business, the activities that create value for customers. So, when visiting any gemba, through showing respect for the workers, we also show respect for customers and the company, analyzing for evidence of disconnects between stated objectives, perhaps expressed in the organization\u2019s \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.lean.org\/lexicon-terms\/true-north\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">true north<\/a>\u201d visions statements, versus what we observed at the gemba.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Always look for signs of disrespect toward:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ol>\n<li>Workers \u2014 especially muri or overburden<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Customers \u2014 poor delivery or poor quality &#8211; especially from controllable mura or fluctuation and variation<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The enterprise itself \u2014 found in problems and muda or waste, in all its forms<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p>But, the worker is the first and best place to look. Think of this flow:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center\">Respect People \u2192 Rely on People \u2192 Develop People \u2192 Challenge People<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We respect people because it\u2019s the right thing to do&nbsp;<em>and<\/em>&nbsp; makes good business sense.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Think of building your operating system from the value-creating worker out. Observe the worker and steadily take away every bit of nonvalue-creating \u201cwork.\u201d Continue doing that, engaging the worker in the process until nothing is left except value-creating work, until all the waste has been eliminated and nonvalue-creating work isolated and taken away, distributed to support operations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>To achieve that level of \u201cleanness,\u201d you will find that you must engage the hearts and minds of the people doing the work. You will have to rely on them, just as you have to rely on them to come to work and do their job so you can get paid by your customers.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Once we\u2019ve recognized that we have no choice but to rely on our employees, it is easy to see the next step, developing them. Because as the lean saying goes, \u201cBefore we make product, we make people.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Which leads directly to the most characteristically lean dimension of respect for people: challenge. Respect for people is often mistaken for establishing the enlightened modern democratic workplace in which everyone is treated with great deference and politically correct politeness. Yet, respect demands that we challenge each other to be the best we can be. Setting challenging expectations is one of the most critical skills of lean leadership. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Most of all, respect means doing what we can to make things better for workers, which starts by not making things worse. And we still find leaders doing more of their share of damage even as they try to help! That\u2019s why the first rule of gemba walking is: \u201cDo no harm!\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>A Note on Gemba-Based Leadership<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>Everywhere we go, we still find overwhelming evidence that the conventional view of a leader is as an answer man (or woman), that the leader always should have a ready answer, and that the leader\u2019s answer is always correct \u2014 remains strong. And indeed, the leader\u2019s role in providing the vision, setting the direction, and showing the path to true north is foundational to lean success.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Unfortunately, we also see overwhelming evidence of the damage done by the broadcast of executive answers that reverberate negatively throughout the organization.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>These guidelines are my own, based on doing gemba visits as an invited outside observer. Each of us needs to consider first, depending on where you work in your organization, where is your real gemba? It\u2019s easy for leaders to cause more trouble than they alleviate. CEOs who try to directly eliminate waste at the gemba often generate more waste than they prevent!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Here are two simple sets of questions for you:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We already asked: \u201cWhat did you look for the last time you went to the gemba?\u201d \u201cWhat&nbsp;<em>do<\/em>&nbsp;you look for (generally) when you go to the gemba?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Then ask, \u201cWhat did you&nbsp;<em>do<\/em>?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>After that, the next set of questions is:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul>\n<li>&#8220;What will you look for next time you go to the gemba?&#8221; <\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>&#8220;What <em>will<\/em> you look for (generally) when you go to the gemba?&#8221; <\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>&#8220;What will you do?&#8221;<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>In other words, ask: What will you do to <em>help?<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>Whenever leaders issue prescriptions from afar, bad things are likely to happen.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>Whenever leaders issue prescriptions from afar, bad things are likely to happen. The best antidote we know? Confirm what is happening as it is happening. Diagnose and prescribe as close in time and place as possible to the work, preferably in partnership with the person or people doing the work. That is one of lean management\u2019s most vital principles and practices.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em><strong>Editor\u2019s Note:<\/strong>&nbsp;This&nbsp;Lean Post&nbsp;is an updated version of an article published on&nbsp;June 21, 2011<\/em>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Here are some guidelines I use when doing a gemba walk as an outside advisor.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":15378,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"_relevanssi_hide_post":"","_relevanssi_hide_content":"","_relevanssi_pin_for_all":"","_relevanssi_pin_keywords":"","_relevanssi_unpin_keywords":"","_relevanssi_related_keywords":"","_relevanssi_related_include_ids":"","_relevanssi_related_exclude_ids":"","_relevanssi_related_no_append":"","_relevanssi_related_not_related":"","_relevanssi_related_posts":"12368,3874,6932,8922,3803,6646","_relevanssi_noindex_reason":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[31],"tags":[],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v22.9 - 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